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The Myth of Left and Right, with Hyrum Lewis
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The Myth of Left and Right, with Hyrum Lewis

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Hyrum Lewis is a professor of history at BYU-Idaho, and a former Visiting Scholar at Stanford University. He received a PhD in history and philosophy from USC. And before coming to BYU-Idaho, he taught at Skidmore College in Saratoga, New York. 

Hyrum was born in Arizona, raised in Oregon, and now resides with his wife, Sundee, and their three kids in Rexburg, Idaho.

In January of 2023, Hyrum co-authored and published a book with his brother called The Myth of Left and Right, How The Political Spectrum Misleads and Harms America. 

In it, to be brief, the authors argue that politics is more emotional than logical, and that the categories of Left and Right are no longer accurate or consistent – and are doing more harm than good to a culture already painfully divided by ideology.  

As I shared with Hyrum during our chat, rarely have I read a book that’s remapped my own internal dialogue the way this book did. It’s one of my favorite political reads in the past 10 years. I hope you learn as much from Hyrum as I did.

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